tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post5154725775617824226..comments2023-07-03T04:25:54.358-07:00Comments on Art Babel: Oil Painting Techniques: The GrisaillesNew York Cityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05807506312905707802noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-41290996582804444122010-07-06T02:11:55.253-07:002010-07-06T02:11:55.253-07:00Transparent yellow is a very important primary col...Transparent yellow is a very important primary color, I made these pages to explain it (them).<br />http://www.realcolorwheel.com/indianyellowtobrownPY153.htm<br />and<br />http://www.realcolorwheel.com/indianyellowtobrownTartrazine.htm<br /><br />The tartrazine yellow clear is what I use in my giclee plotter/printer, oil, acrylic and water color media.Don Juskohttp://www.realcolorwheel.com/colorwheel.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-44961369593059574262007-09-19T23:02:00.000-07:002007-09-19T23:02:00.000-07:00awesome stuff!!thanks dude..I'll be digesting this...awesome stuff!!<BR/><BR/>thanks dude..I'll be digesting this tomorrow when I'm not a walking zombie..<BR/><BR/>so transparent yellow...duh..!?<BR/><BR/>very generous to share such tips..I'll be sure ti link to this post on the class blog.Jacques de Beauforthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08158137495389959824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-20797927651444283932007-09-19T07:02:00.000-07:002007-09-19T07:02:00.000-07:00By the way Jacques, the reason your yellow glaze i...By the way Jacques, <BR/>the reason your yellow glaze is turning green is that the yellow you're using is not a transparent pigment. Try transparent yellow oxide for an earthy yellow.New York Cityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05807506312905707802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-4901143316558479702007-09-19T06:42:00.000-07:002007-09-19T06:42:00.000-07:00Well, I completed my masters at the New York Acade...Well, I completed my masters at the New York Academy of Art: Graduate School of Figurative Art. It's the only accredited graduate school in the world that focuses on traditional methods of figure painting. Among the instructors are Vincent Desiderio (from the previous post), Eric Fischl, Peter Drake, Stephen Assael, Wade Schuman, and Catherine Howe. On top of that, I spent a lot of time copying paintings at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.<BR/><BR/>There is also a similar curricula at the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Art. Which is where Wade Schuman and Vincent Desiderio studied, David Lynch also studied there at the same time.<BR/><BR/>There are many artists who do care about this type of thing here, but I think most of them don't give a shit either. We "traditionalists" are certainly still a minority even in New York.New York Cityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05807506312905707802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-54529849700006188462007-09-18T22:08:00.000-07:002007-09-18T22:08:00.000-07:00word up...by the way have you ever tried glazing w...word up...<BR/><BR/>by the way have you ever tried glazing with yellow..?<BR/><BR/><BR/>what a disaster that can be..I was working on that yellow piece you can see on the front page of my blog for like 2 months.<BR/>Everytime I glazed it everything turned green. I had to keep going back and lightening it up with a zinc white glaze and then re-working. It worked out in the end and became very ehtereal..but it took about twice the time I expected.<BR/><BR/>So where did you study this stuff ?<BR/><BR/>It's funny because I do all the stuff you're talking about but I've just made it up on my own..never knew that each of these steps had specific names like "couch" or "sauce". UVA was a pretty weak painting school and at CalArts no one even knew how to paint..so I've improvised my tech for the last 8 years or so...<BR/><BR/>It's funny to stumble across someone who actually cares about this stuff. Most people in the artworld in LA could give a shit. Technique is pretty basic here, it's more about attitude, style, and fashion..or not..maybe I'm just being needlessly dismissive..Jacques de Beauforthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08158137495389959824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-5764181855712061712007-09-18T19:37:00.000-07:002007-09-18T19:37:00.000-07:00Also, you could have them zoom in (almost to the p...Also, you could have them zoom in (almost to the point of abstracting) for their composition. That way they can focus on the technique and not so much the drawing and will paint faster. <BR/><BR/>Here's another trick. If they begin by painting only opaque or impasto, they can begin glazing while the paint is still wet in the first sitting. Use a little more solvent (too much will break down the pigment) in their medium for the glaze and go over it lightly with thin fan brush. This might be a little advanced, but is very fun to experiment with.New York Cityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05807506312905707802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-27939560006365129302007-09-18T19:12:00.000-07:002007-09-18T19:12:00.000-07:00Well, they can use glazing with alla prima as wel...Well, they can use glazing with <I> alla prima</I> as well. A good introduction is to choose an over all color to glaze the whole piece and then paint back into it, wet into wet.(This is what's called a couch) And later, they can move to local glazes. <BR/><BR/>Also, they could work on a still life to learn the glazing technique. I always recommend that they bring in their own items so they can set up a still life that has significance for them - as still life's can tend to become boring without personal connection.<BR/><BR/>I'll post more in-depth about glazes tomorrow.New York Cityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05807506312905707802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6652275538457823708.post-15262364317296760822007-09-18T18:27:00.000-07:002007-09-18T18:27:00.000-07:00yeah, this is all good stuff.I'm not as rigorously...yeah, this is all good stuff.<BR/>I'm not as rigorously trained as you seem to be and have always just made it all up as I wen't along..<BR/><BR/>Anyways..the class is life painting 383 at CalState Long Beach..they are all seniors and juniors and have plenty of experience..but not with glazing techniques.<BR/><BR/>I think the main problem I'm having is that we don't have the model to sit there forever like a still-life..<BR/><BR/>Personally, in my own work I'm more inclined to build the painting up very slowly with layer after layer of glaze...it's very tedious but it works for me well...but in this situation an all prima type sketch seems to be the default method here given that I only have models for 3 sessions each. Maybe I just have to work the models and really motivate them to do the same pose for like 6-8 hours.<BR/><BR/>See..I just use photographic sources or paint from my head so alot of this purist type stuff is a little intense for me...but I think it's a great exercise and opportunity for these students. <BR/>Anyways I'll be blogging the class as it progresses:<BR/>http://csulb383.blogspot.com/<BR/>Putting there work on an additional page as wellJacques de Beauforthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08158137495389959824noreply@blogger.com